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Trash your erasers. We're here to keep you sane you through the storm of artmaking! A podcast hosted by two pencil-wieldin’ goons, Caro Casal and Garrett Ley.
Episodes

Nov 1, 2020
Nov 1, 2020
51 min
All art is just a remix of everything else. Stop worrying about uniqueness and start worrying about like, rising avocado prices or something.

Oct 18, 2020
Oct 18, 2020
1hr 12 min
An episode about why we procrastinate and ways to overcome it or something. I’ll write the rest of the description later lmao.

Oct 5, 2020
Oct 5, 2020
40 min
What IS perfection, anyway, and why are we so obsessed with it? Today we talk about tackling the awful pressure we put on ourselves.

Sep 19, 2020
Sep 19, 2020
32 min
Welcome to season two! Today we kick off Black Creative Voices, an ongoing series where we interview black artists about their work, challenges and dreams. This episode features incredible motion media designer and dear friend, Jen Estridge. Join us as we talk about Michael Kors walking by her desk, finding ourselves through design, school vs working life, Disney’s Splash Mountain, cancel culture (Jeffree Starr & Shane Dawson), police brutality, Black Lives Matter protests (George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, etc.), and more. Whew!
You can find her on:
Instagram: @estrojenart , @_estrojen
Twitter: @TheEstrojen
Jen’s Website: https://www.jenniferestridge.com/
Links:
Jen’s Black-led hardcore band thread: https://twitter.com/TheEstrojen/status/1268250477365428228
Jen’s Black-led hardcore band playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5ig2JyPPVXdvoTn9eeviwC?si=xVby-zBYRD6khS2be7PGSg
Jen’s Speech Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/36Q4uLKFKbJ48OJnPIuIeE?si=TM_l_E9fSTyMREKxXTGZJQ
Organizations / movements:
For the Gworls: https://instagram.com/forthegworls?igshid=1fyq7i09nympw
Justice for Julius

Sep 19, 2020
Sep 19, 2020
42 min
Did you know that artists are celestially chosen beings? No? Well they SURE AREN’T. In this episode we explore the issue with “talent” and how anyone can begin the path into artmaking.

Sep 19, 2020
Sep 19, 2020
1hr 5 min
Welcome to season two! Today we kick off Black Creative Voices, an ongoing series where we interview black artists about their work, challenges and dreams. This episode features incredible motion media designer and dear friend, Jen Estridge. Join us as we talk about Michael Kors walking by her desk, finding ourselves through design, school vs working life, Disney’s Splash Mountain, cancel culture (Jeffree Starr & Shane Dawson), police brutality, Black Lives Matter protests (George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, etc.), and more. Whew!
You can find her on:
Instagram: @estrojenart , @_estrojen
Twitter: @TheEstrojen
Jen’s Website: https://www.jenniferestridge.com/
Links:
Jen’s Black-led hardcore band thread: https://twitter.com/TheEstrojen/status/1268250477365428228
Jen’s Black-led hardcore band playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5ig2JyPPVXdvoTn9eeviwC?si=xVby-zBYRD6khS2be7PGSg
Jen’s Speech Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/36Q4uLKFKbJ48OJnPIuIeE?si=TM_l_E9fSTyMREKxXTGZJQ
Organizations / movements:
For the Gworls: https://instagram.com/forthegworls?igshid=1fyq7i09nympw
Justice for Julius

Apr 22, 2020
Apr 22, 2020
40 min
Everyone wants to fit in, right? But it’s not always good. Today we talk about making what’s true to you and embracing your strengths.

Apr 3, 2020
Apr 3, 2020
39 min
Today we talk about just plunging in and not worrying about perfection. Bon voyage!
